Top 5 new begineer Sport Bikes for those intrested...

[DomesticChiney]

Here's my list of what I feel is the five best begineer Sport Bikes out there. Here's number one.... More to be added as the week progresses.

Number 1:


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2009 Suzuki SV650SF

Welcome to a bike that combines middleweight agility with V-twin power - and tops it all off with aggressive and sporty styling.

Middleweight sport bikes are known for their responsive handling, and the SV650S is engineered to set the standard for its class. With its light and rigid aluminum-alloy truss frame and technically advanced suspension front and rear, it invites you to carve up the canyon roads with complete confidence.

The SV650S offers an equal measure of V-twin excitement. It's loaded with advanced designs, starting with a liquid-cooled, fuel-injected engine that boasts a wide powerband with crisp throttle response and strong acceleration in every gear. What's more, its 90-degree V-twin design offers perfect primary balance, which results in smooth performance and comfortable open-road riding.

Engine Features

- Twin spark plug cylinder heads for optimum combustion and reduced emissions.

- Compact 645 cc, 90 degree liquid-cooled V-twin, DOHC 8-valve engine tuned for strong low to mid rpm power

- 90 degree V-twin cylinder layout eliminates primary vibration without a counterbalancer, keeping the engine simple and compact

- Lightweight chain-driven DOHC, shim-under-bucket valve system with 31 mm intake valves and 25.5 mm exhaust valves

- Electronic fuel injection system featuring the Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve System (SDTV) - maintains optimum air velocity in the intake tract for smooth low-to-mid rpm throttle response and high torque output - includes Auto Fast Idle System (AFIS)

- High capacity liquid-cooling system enhances engine performance and durability - coolant routing is integrated with the clutch cover and engine case for a cleaner look and reduced weight

- Smooth-shifting 6-speed transmission with vertically staggered transmission shafts for a shorter, more compact crankcase

- Plastic outer clutch cover and engine sprocket cover for reduced weight and noise

- Lightweight 2-into-1 exhaust system tuned for strong low and mid-range torque

Chassis Features

- Sleek fairing features dual 60/55W headlights with running lights and folding mirrors

- Narrow, lightweight aluminum truss-style frame constructed with high-vacuum die-cast process for more consistent strength and fewer individual welded sections

- Black-painted frame, swingarm, and wheels for more sport appearance

- 41 mm front fork with 130 mm of wheel travel provides a smooth, compliant ride

- Link-type single-shock rear suspension with 7-way adjustable preload

- Box-section aluminum swingarm is lightweight with high torsional rigidity

- Powerful dual hydraulic disc front brakes with 290 mm floating rotors and adjustable brake lever position

- Single disc rear brake with 240 mm rotor

- Compact instrument cluster includes analog tach, LCD speedometer, odometer/tripmeters, and temperature gauge, plus LCD clock and low fuel warning light

- Steeply-angled tail section houses unique vertically-styled, high visibility LED taillight and compact rear fender

- Large under-seat storage area, passenger grab-bar and tie-down hooks

- Slim 4.5 gallon fuel tank with low fuel warning light

- Hinged fuel tank swings up for easy access to the airbox and throttle bodies

- Wide radial tires mounted on lightweight, 3-spoke cast aluminum wheels

2009 Suzuki SV650S - USA Specifications
MSRP: $6,999 USD

Model Number SV650SK9
Type Sportbike
Warranty
Suggested Retail $6999
SEP $0
Engine 645 cc (39.4 cu. in), 4-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 90? V-twin
Bore & Stroke 81.0 mm (3.189 in) x 62.6 mm (2.465 in)
Compression Ratio 11.5 : 1
Fuel System Fuel injection
Lubrication Wet sump
Ignition Electronic ignition (Transistorized)
Starter Electric
Transmission 6-speed constant mesh
Final Drive DID525V8, 108 links
Overall Length 2085 mm (82.1 in)
Overall Width 730 mm (28.7 in)
Overall Height 1170 mm (46.1 in)
Seat Height 800 mm (31.5 in)
Ground Clearance 155 mm (6.1 in)
Wheelbase 1425 mm (56.1 in)
Curb Weight 200 kg (438 lbs)
Suspension Front Telescopic, coil spring, oil damped
Suspension Rear Link type, coil spring, oil damped
Brakes Front Disc brake, twin
Brakes Rear Disc brake
Tires Front 120/60ZR17M/C (55W), tubeless
Tires Rear 160/60ZR17M/C (69W), tubeless
Fuel Tank Capacity 17.0 L (4.5/3.7 US/Imp gal)
Color Blue, Gray

My Thoughts

Great all around bike that will serve just as much fun for a begineer as well as a experienced rider. Its V-Twin power plant gives all the great torque down low and the bike itself is so well balanced, its very forgiving. Especially for those of us that forget to look before we turn and realize that there is a sand pile in front of us. There is a point though, that sand over takes bike and rider and both go down.....

[92vr4]

Hmmmm.... Interesting

[DomesticChiney]

Hmmmm.... Interesting

For you 92VR4.... I reccomend Honda Rebel 250!!!! lol :cool:


j/k

[92vr4]

Lol fork u boss!!

[DomesticChiney]

lol. I still would reccomend the Rebel 250cc.... Damn thing gets like 70 miles to the gallon and can still get up to 80 to 90 mph!

[DomesticChiney]

Number 2...

2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650R

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2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650R

More than a pretty face with a good personality, this is a true Ninja sportbike

The Kawasaki Ninja® 650R already epitomized the ideal marriage of sportbike performance and relaxed comfort. For 2009 Kawasaki improved on this combination and gave this popular model several new upgrades, from improved suspension to updated Ninja supersport styling. The end result of over 40 updates and refinements, the new sportier Ninja 650R delivers serious performance fun and maximum transportation practicality.

The key to the Ninja 650R’s slender size is its compact liquid-cooled, fuel-injected, DOHC, 8-valve 649cc parallel twin engine, which permits the use of a narrow, lightweight frame. Revised fuel injection settings on this torquey engine boost its bottom-end torque, smooth low-mid rpm response and allow it to rev more quickly.

Routing the coolant to the cylinder and head through the engine cases reduces the number of external hoses. The engine also meets stringent Euro-III emission regulations thanks to its precise fuel-injection and a three-way catalyzer system with a new 300-cell catalyzer that’s smaller and lighter than the previous 200-cell unit.

The non-intimidating twin-cylinder appeals to new riders, and has an excellent mid-range that offers enough pizzazz to thrill more advanced riders. A modified shift lever position permits easier application of the Ninja 650R’s linear power delivery. The manageable power delivery and superb roll-on response enable the new Ninja 650R to make short work of the morning commute or perform as an entertaining track day companion – all while delivering good fuel economy.

This spunky sportbike received several changes to the frame, swingarm and suspension that result in reduced vibration and lighter handling, making the new Ninja 650R more nimble and comfortable than ever. Its signature trellis frame and offset laydown rear shock design remains, but the frame was completely revamped and now sports a higher quality paint finish.

The slim, compact trellis style chassis received more than cosmetic changes. Revisions to rigidity balance and suspension settings, and the addition of rubber upper-rear engine and handlebar mounts result in reduced vibration and lighter handling, enabling an improvement on the Ninja 650R’s comfort and handling.

Rider and passenger footpegs are now rubber coated to further reduce the amount of vibration transferred to the rider. The natural riding position and ergonomics are enhanced by a new slimmer and lower seat, which makes reaching the ground even easier than on the previous model.

Surrounding the Ninja 650R’s updated chassis is unquestionably sportier styling. From the wider windscreen and dual headers to the high-quality finish of the sleek minimalist fairings and covers leave little doubt about this Ninja’s supersport genetics.
Avoiding unnecessary design flourishes, the Ninja 650R’s new sharper lines flow throughout the bike, giving it an aggressive appearance. Even with a new, taller fuel tank, the new fairing with integrated turn signals and a sharp tail cowl ably highlight this motorcycle’s compact dimensions.

Beyond its exciting appearance, new MotoGP inspired multi-function instrumentation and revised controls, the Ninja 650R is rolling proof that a performance motorcycle can be practical and comfortable. The rider may notice the slimness of the chassis, low seat height and minimal effort controls first before realizing the true aim of Kawasaki’s design efforts – the rider.

The Ninja 650R’s friendly ergonomics provide a versatile cockpit that both novice and experienced riders will use to employ its assets to the fullest, from the daily commute to a weekend canyon run. In other words, this real world overachiever easily demonstrates its versatility and everyday usefulness.

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Features

Quick-Revving, 649cc Parallel-Twin Engine
- Liquid-cooled, DOHC, 8-valve fuel injected twin cylinder delivers smooth, responsive performance, especially in the low to medium rpm range
- Excellent mid-range power, exceptional roll-on response and impressive passing performance make even commuter traffic enjoyable
- Silky smooth engine vibes via a 180° crankshaft driven balancer shaft, which in turn drives the water pump
- Oil jets on the connecting rod big ends spray oil on the undersides of the pistons to aid cooling
- Lightweight plug-mounted ignition coils deliver a hot spark and save space
- Wide radiator offers plenty of cooling efficiency
- New coolant routing travels directly to the engine cases, then on to the cylinder and head through internal passages, which reduces external plumbing and keep the cooling system simple
- Fine-tuned shift lever position is easy to use

Digital Fuel Injection
- Fuel injection settings permit a healthy bottom-end torque while letting the engine rev fast
- Sub-throttle valve equipped 38mm Keihin throttle bodies offer optimum performance and rideability
- Located behind the main throttle valves, the sub-throttles are controlled by the DFI® system ECU for a precise throttle response, similar to a constant-velocity carburetor
- Auto-fast idle system simplifies starting and helps ensure the catalyzer reaches optimum temperature quickly
- The lightweight fuel pump is mounted inside the fuel tank.

Compact Engine Design
- Powerful twin-cylinder engine is the most compact in its category, which helps reduce the dimension of the entire motorcycle and allows use of a slim, minimalist frame
- Triangular setup of the crankshaft and transmission shafts makes the engine short front-to-back
- Transmission input shaft, output shaft and change drum are contained in a “cassette”-style package that allows a compact layout and eases transmission maintenance chores
- Semi-dry sump design reduces engine height
- Plated, linerless aluminum cylinders with a narrow cylinder pitch keep the engine light and slim

Cleaner Emissions
- Efficient fuel injection and a three-way catalyzer inside the exhaust produce very low emissions, able to pass the stringent Euro-III emission regulations
- Utilizes a compact and light 300-cell catalyzer unit
- Under-engine muffler placement improves mass centralization and the bike’s low center of gravity
- The exhaust pipe bend and under-engine muffler arrangement contribute to the ER-6n’s attractive styling

Good Vibrations
- Rubber upper-rear engine mounts decrease the vibration transferred to the rider through the seat
- Handlebar is rubber-mounted to lessen vibration transmitted through the handle grips
- Rider and passenger footpegs are rubber coated to further reduce vibration


Lighter Handling Trellis Frame
- Frame has all the key ER-6n elements — slim, low, lightweight and compact design that is narrow at the knees and footpegs for rider comfort and control
- The strong, high-tensile steel trellis frame not only looks lightweight, but it is – rivaling that of aluminum frames
- Featuring balanced rigidity, achieved through extensive 3D analysis translates directly into superb handling
- The frame, rear suspension and swingarm designs flow together with an integrated line running from the steering head to the rear hub
- Short front-to-back dimensions of the engine allow for a long swingarm and a short wheelbase combination that contributes to the light and nimble handling

Rigid Swingarm
- Swingarm stiffness to balance the frame rigidity – due primarily to the rubber engine mounts
- The D-shaped cross-section swingarm, stabilizer, chain adjuster design and elegant one-piece rider/passenger footpeg stays complement to the ER-6n’s high-quality appearance

Suspension
- Front and rear suspension settings to match the frame and swingarm rigidity values for lighter, rider-friendly handling
- Shape of the 41mm fork lower ends around the axle shaft adds to the bike’s performance and high quality image

Confidence Inspiring Ergonomics
- An ideal handlebar, seat and footpeg relationship results in a comfortable and natural riding position suiting a wide range of riders
- Frame narrows just aft of the fuel tank enabling a slimmer seat, making the reach to the ground even easier
- The offset single-shock rear suspension layout with the battery located beside the shock instead of beneath it allows a lower seat height as well
- Low seat height and slim overall design make it easy to plant both feet firmly on the ground when stopped
- Aluminum passenger grips are positioned and shaped for easy grabbing by the passenger

Sharp Masculine Styling
- Angular, stacked dual headlight and its shroud contribute to the ER-6n’s masculine image and features two position lights
- Headlights can be adjusted behind the headlight cover
- Reinforcing the ER-6n’s masculine styling, the sharp, edgy radiator shrouds feature integrated front turn signals with clear lenses and orange bulbs and forward-leaning lines
- A flush-surface fuel cap and its sharp-edged motif give the tank a distinctive look
- The new ER-6n’s compact front-to-rear appearance is enhanced by the short front cowl, short rear cowl with its LED tail light and shrouds that start behind the front fork
- Finishing out the bike’s aggressive image is a sharp tail cowl design featuring a slimmer rear mud flap and turn signals that can also function as hazard lights
- A long front fender keeps the mud splashing to a minimum and its two-tone design matches the ER-6n’s light, compact theme
- An inner rear fender helps keep the underside of the tail cowl clean
- Storage options include four tie-down hooks for baggage or a spare helmet to be secured to the seat and a storage space under the seat with room for a U-lock or similar device

Mirrors
- Mirror design is a similar supersport-style and offer an unparalleled rear view

Brakes
- Dual 300mm front petal disc brakes with twin 27mm piston front brake calipers and a single 220mm rear petal disc deliver plenty of braking power
- Housed in a curved brake master cylinder reservoir , the front brake lever utilizes an optimized ball-joint and pivot location to deliver smooth actuation of its 14mm master cylinder piston

Wheels
- Attractive six-spoke supersport-style wheels augment the bike’s light look while reducing unsprung weight

Instruments/Controls
- Stacked instrument cluster has a sharp design and clean layout with an analog speedometer that uses white LED backlights for excellent visibility at night
- The multi-function LCD screen has amber backlighting and its features include a fuel gauge, bar-style digital tachometer, clock, odometer and dual trip meters
- Inner cover inside the front cowl provides a clean appearance in this area
- Handlebar mount design and curved shapes on the brake master cylinder reservoir and clutch lever contribute further to the ER-6n’s masculine appearance

2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650R - USA Specifications
MSRP: $6,799

Engine: Four-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, four-valve per cylinder, parallel twin
Displacement: 649cc
Bore x stroke: 83.0 x 60.0mm
Compression ratio: 11.3:1
Maximum torque: 48.5 lb/ft @ 7,000 rpm
Cooling: Liquid
Fuel injection: Digital fuel injection with two 38mm Keihin throttle bodies
Ignition: Digital CDI
Transmission: Six-speed
Final drive: O-ring chain
Frame: Semi-double cradle, high-tensile steel
Rake / trail: 25 degrees / 4.2 in.
Wheelbase: 55.5 in.
Front suspension / wheel travel: 41mm hydraulic telescopic fork / 4.7 in.
Rear suspension / wheel travel: Single offset laydown shock with adjustable spring preload / 4.9 in.
Front tire: 120/70x17
Rear tire: 160/60x17
Front brake: Dual 300mm petal discs with two-piston calipers
Rear brake: Single 220mm petal disc with single piston caliper
Overall length: 82.9 in.
Overall width: 29.9 in.
Overall height: 50.0 in.
Seat height: 31.1 in.
Curb weight: 440.9 lbs.
Fuel capacity: 4.1 gal.
Colors: Lime Green
Passion Red
Metallic Diablo Black
MSRP: $6,799
Warranty: 12 months
Wholesale distributor: Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A.
9950 Jeronimo Road
Irvine, California 92618
(949) 770-0400
www.kawasaki.com

[VIZuki]

For you 92VR4.... I reccomend Honda Rebel 250!!!! lol :cool:


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HAHA I had onof those..those things are fun and can still pass normal cars very good bike to learn on I did that was my first bike...best bike to learn on I would say a Kawasaki Ninja 250 or 500 still able to handle and keep up some what or a GS500.
all pics via bikepics.com every bike u could think of and then more:rofl:

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GS500http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/01/18/bikepics-1543667-800.jpg

[DomesticChiney]

Yea.... that high standard style steering colum is comfy but it looks fugly.... I like that Ninja 500 with the inverted forks.

[92vr4]

What r inverted forks?

[DomesticChiney]

What r inverted forks?


Forks are those two bars you see coming down on the front tires side. They are what steer and balance the bikes.

I'm not sure what the advantage of inverted forks are compared to others... Again my knoweldge on bike mechanics is limited....

Also....


VISuki..... Did you used to go by the name VISaki on a Kawasaki forum? lol. How dare you go over to the Kawasaki side!!!! lol

[Tekknikal]

wouldnt a 250 be a better learning bike? would think 600cc+ would be a bit much.... not that i know much about bikes just thinking aloud :dunno:

[DomesticChiney]

wouldnt a 250 be a better learning bike? would think 600cc+ would be a bit much.... not that i know much about bikes just thinking aloud :dunno:

True. A better learner bike would be a 250.... BUT...... Me, you, and just about everyone on this forum has a taste for speed, power, and performance..... And most of us here are pretty fast learners when it comes to playing on the roads. Most of us here would grow out of a 250cc bike within the first 2 days and there goes a waste of $3,500 right there.

Plus the look on my 250cc bikes arn't that appealing to me. And the max speed on most are around 80mph depending on rider weight. In parts of Texas where riders equal the population of drivers... if you had anything lower then a 750cc bike people would laugh.

A 600cc to 650cc middleweight bike would be a great starter tool and will last a LONG time. Plus they are not much more then a 250cc bike in terms of cost.

IE

Hyosung 250cc Sport Bike Rougly 4800 to 5200 depending on where you get it.

Suzuki SV650SF 650cc Sport Bike = I bought mine brand new from dealer for 6,800 and it has a larger aftermarket support and a better build quality.

[DomesticChiney]

Also, there is a slight difference between Middle Weight and Middle Weight Race bikes...

My Suzuki SV650 has slightly more displacment then say VISuki's GSX 600-R. But that little "R" on his bike means his bike is tuned and prepped for racing. His 600cc engine puts out alot more power then my 650cc. Where my bike might reach a top speed of about 130 to 140, his will reach about 150, maybe more.

Now if me and him were to get on open highway, my v-twin will prob take him in 1st to the begining of 3rd. But once past like 70mph and over, he'll overtake me quickly.

If bikes were free to StreetSeen, I'd reccomend all of us start on a Hayabusa... Those that survive after the first week are true riders!

[VIZuki]

Forks are those two bars you see coming down on the front tires side. They are what steer and balance the bikes.

I'm not sure what the advantage of inverted forks are compared to others... Again my knoweldge on bike mechanics is limited....

Also....


VISuki..... Did you used to go by the name VISaki on a Kawasaki forum? lol. How dare you go over to the Kawasaki side!!!! lol

HAHA you caught me...damn!!! naw that was for my dirt bike actually I'll never leave ZUKI sport bikes that bike in the pivutre iposted is actually the 250 ninja 2009 model the second one is the 500..as for the inverted forks there a better feel t oroad conditions than say regular stance forks...instead of sag as the bike would normal ride on the road the surface of the road comes to the suspension...:hs: alot of cars or track race cars have inverted coilovers..which is why I made that comment on the MOSLER...TEKKS coilovers are probably inverted on his car..but once you run into coilovers there al lpretty good but gottah be dialed in right...hmmmm SAKI sounds about good right now nice big bottle of WARM SAKI...:rofl::rofl:

[Tekknikal]

i dunno... when it comes to this kind of performance people might laugh at a 250 and it might be ugly but im not sure that would matter. you have to learn somewhere.

but i hear you dc. back in the day i told my roomates i loved driving. i only had a sentra. they laughed at that....

[92vr4]

If they could only see u now....

[DomesticChiney]

If they could only see u now....

+1 lol

[VIZuki]

This is a 250..and I don't see where this looks at all ugly unless you generally think bikes are ugly haha the new ninjas come carb and EFI so theres always the choice of a PowerCommander III or other EFI controller piggyback.`http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/02/11/bikepics-1568903-800.jpg

[DomesticChiney]

Well THAT 250 doesn't look ugly.... but the Hyosung 250 does to me...... And it sounds like a pissed of lawn mower or a weed wacker......